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Leaf Rollers

Postby ron » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:48 am

Hi All,
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Re: Leaf Rollers

Postby IainH » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:05 am

Hi Ron,

Rearing leaf rollers and miners sounds like a great idea. I know nothing about it, but here are a couple of links that might be useful:

http://charlielepidopteraofcalderdale.b ... rts-5.html

http://www.angleps.com/Micro%20rearing% ... lliott.pdf

I'm doing a similar thing this year with bees and wasps. Earlier in the year I put out in the dunes some blocks of wood with holes drilled in. Various bees and wasps have nested in the holes and, after the first frost of the winter, I'll take the pupae indoors to rear to adults...an hopefully get some new sepcies added to the site list for the dunes.

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Re: Leaf Rollers

Postby AlistairMurdoch » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:01 pm

Hi Ron,

I have kept larvae and pupae of larger moths and butterflies until they hatch out. I did it really on a hit or miss basis by just keeping them in an old fish tank in a cool garden hut. I only did it with species which I could identify at whatever stage they were at so that I could supply the right food eg. cabbage white larvae. If I found a pupa I just kept it until it emerged, sometimes right through winter. An alarming event happened with an emperor moth cocoon I found. Unknown to me the pupa was infested with ichneumon flies which tried to emerge by biting through the tough cocoon. It was too thick for them however and they only got their heads out before dying. I have had success with elephant hawkmoth, large yellow underwing, burnett moths and once - a ruby tiger. Good luck with this venture, looking at the UK moths site it frequently states that little is known about the life cycle of even some common species - especially micros. Maybe you should keep notes of dates etc.

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Re: Leaf Rollers

Postby ron » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:54 am

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Re: Leaf Rollers

Postby ron » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:14 pm

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Re: Leaf Rollers

Postby AlistairMurdoch » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:21 pm

Hi Ron,

what about putting some dryish compost in the container. It can then burrow down to pupate if that's what it wants to do.

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Re: Leaf Rollers

Postby ron » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:02 am

Hi Alistair,
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Re: Leaf Rollers

Postby ron » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:23 am

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Re: Leaf Rollers

Postby AlistairMurdoch » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:59 pm

Hi Ron,

shame about the caterpillar. I suppose the more you keep the greater chance of success.

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Re: Leaf Rollers

Postby IainH » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:49 am

Hi Ron,

Sorry to hear that your caterpillar didn’t make it. I happened to be talking to a keen lepidopterist a few weeks ago. He told me about a time when a couple of his large (Goat or Hawk, I can’t recall) moth larvae appeared to die, go limp and become horribly discoloured and bloated. They pupated a few days later! Your caterpillar does sound like it’s very much dead though. The same lepidopterist also recounted a tale pretty much like Alistair’s. He’d tried to rear a Goat Moth caterpillar caught in the New Forest, but all that emerged were two tachinid flies. However, they were two of the rarest tachinid flies ever found in Britain!

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