July 13

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Re: July 13

Postby IainH » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:57 am

Hi Ron,

Great selection of moths - I'd love to see a Vestal. I'd be tempted to label your White-point as The Clay. I'd feel more confident saying this if your images were larger, but I reckon the dots are more typical of The Clay than White-point - especially in the second photograph.

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Re: July 13

Postby ron » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:24 pm

Hi Iain,
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Re: July 13

Postby IainH » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:35 pm

Hi Ron,

On another forum recently I posted details of a couple fo bee species discovered in Ayrshire that haven't been recorded anywhere else in Scotland, so, like you say, White-point turning-up isn't an impossibility. I think that if a White-point turned-up in their trap, most Scottish mothers would just automatically assume it was a Clay!

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Re: July 13

Postby ron » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:09 am

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Re: July 13

Postby ron » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:16 am

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Re: July 13

Postby nickcandlish » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:15 am

Ron,
Multi coloured Micro is Pyrausta purpuralis.
Sorry to take Iains side but White-point is without a shadow of doubt The Clay. I find it very easy not to be able to see the wood for the trees when it comes to seperating live specimens of similar species in the field...this is one of the reasons that I collect. I'm currently toiling over what appears to be Pandemis dumetana, I hope that higher authority will confirm my suspicions but frankly the balance of probability, based on distribution, is that I'm wrong.

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Re: July 13

Postby ron » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:28 pm

Hi Nick
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Re: July 13

Postby nickcandlish » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:18 pm

Ron,
Prior to my reply I consulted The Moths and Butterflies of GB and Ireland (Heath and Emmet), British Moths (C Manly) The Cockayne Collection (on line) and Moths of the British Isles (B Skinner). The latter when refering to similar species to The Clay states that M. albipuncta is smaller and has a postmedian line without blackish dots. Judging by the images in the other sources the black dots or lack of them seems to be diagnostic.
I certainally don't see any need to fall out over an ID, in fact surley one of the benefits of forums such as this is that it allows one to communicate freely with others who share in a minority interest.....The nearest Lepidopterist to me who I know personally lives to the North of Lochinver, some 300 miles away!

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Re: July 13

Postby IainH » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:29 pm

Hi Ron,

Wow, a bee! And a cracking shot of one too. I’m 99% sure this is Andrena bicolor, which has its second generation out and about at the moment. It’s a solitary bee - i.e. it doesn’t nest in colonies. It's a mining bee and may well be nesting in the open soil in your garden.

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Re: July 13

Postby ron » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:08 am

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